x_maker: (Questions of science)
John Henry Forge ([personal profile] x_maker) wrote2007-11-28 12:03 pm

An interesting thought...

How many of us have at least one parent who is also a mutant?

[identity profile] x-aerial.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 06:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you even need to ask that for me?

[identity profile] x-forge.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
You and the Queen are actually a curious pair there. Second (at least) generation mutants, neither of whom exhibit powers similar to each other or your parents.

On the other hand, Terry pretty much has the exact same mutation as her father, as I understand it.

Do we know anyone else who had two mutant parents?

[identity profile] x-aerial.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Third generation. At least, that's all that we can confirm as a fact.

[identity profile] x-tarot.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Neither of my parents are. Thank goodness.

I would say that had it not been for my mutation, I may have inherited a tendency to mental disorders from my mother.

[identity profile] x-tarot.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 07:01 pm (UTC)(link)
It is not possible to diagnose me, because, from what I was told by Dr. MacTaggart, the changes in my brain chemistry and activity could be an indication of a mental illness, or a side-effect of my precognition, or both.

[identity profile] x-forge.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
That's an interesting thought - historically, early manifestations of psionic or precognitive ability would probably have been seen as demonic possession or some kind of inherently evil ability back in the dark ages before technology and reason.

[identity profile] x-tarot.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 07:11 pm (UTC)(link)
In the days of technology and reason, my mother still thinks I am Jeanne d'Arc reincarnate.

[identity profile] x-forge.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 07:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Your mother is a Catholic that believes in reincarnation?

[identity profile] x-tarot.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Jeanne d'Arc is a Saint, so I think she believes that I am just possesed of her spirit. I try not to ask her questions about it. It took me two weeks to convince her that Jamie was not Jesus.

[identity profile] x-forge.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
...I wonder what the nutritional value of Jamie-duped loaves and fishes would be. Can he do that? I mean, his dupes always had clothes and stuff.

[identity profile] x-tarot.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 07:21 pm (UTC)(link)
My mother saw him dupe a tunafish sandwich. He said it made his stomach very unhappy.

[identity profile] x-rahne.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
I do not know who my biological parents were.

...

On reflection, maybe I should look into that.

[identity profile] x-bamf.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
My mother is. My father is most definitely not.

[identity profile] x-forge.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
And you definitely don't share any power-specific traits with your mother, either.
xp_daytripper: (bemused)

[personal profile] xp_daytripper 2007-11-28 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
They're both blue, tho'...

[identity profile] x-mirage.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I only know of one other blue mutant. and she's female. curious.

not too many oddly colored mutants in general. Clarice, Artie, Kurt...

[identity profile] x-traction.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 07:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I have one that I know of, don't know about the other. Mutations don't appear related at all, since that's what you seem to be interested in.

[identity profile] x-forge.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 07:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, it's a curiosity. I was reading through one of the Friends of Humanity websites, and perusing a particular essay from an "expert in the field" who's trying to use Mendellian genetics to show how mutants will eventually replace humans as the majority of the population.

It's obvious that two baseline humans can produce a mutant child. That's most of us.

A mutant and a human can produce mutant children, or baseline humans like Dani's son Billy.

I wonder if there's ever been a case of two mutants producing a baseline human child. Because if not, then mathematically, assuming equal rates of reproduction among mutants and humans, it's completely possible that in time, mutants will outnumber non-mutants.

Of course, assuming a 25-year generation, we're looking at a timeline of centuries.

[identity profile] x-pressive.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
an "expert in the field" who's trying to use Mendellian genetics

And there's your problem right there. Even I know that Punnett Squares aren't going to explain heredity of the mutation.

[identity profile] x-forge.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
My thought exactly. And so far as I can figure it, the numbers are still on the side of mutation as an incredible rarity. Sure, the likelihood of having a mutant child is higher if one of the parents is also a mutant, but it's not a guarantee.

Now we just have to convince the FoH that we're not trying to use Marius to breed homo sapiens out of existence.

[identity profile] x-pressive.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
It's the same bullshit that they spout when they want creationism "intelligent design" taught in science class. It's all a purposeful misunderstanding of how it all works.

And for the record, neither of my parents are mutants.

[identity profile] x-emplate.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
It is not I the FOH should be worried about. The three spawn of one Cartier St. Croix to have reached the appropriate age of manifestation have, indeed, manifested. Perhaps this would be worrying if not for the fact that the current quality of mutations imply at least a 2 in 3 chance the FOH need only wait for the bloodline to implode.

[identity profile] x-wildchild.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
One of mine's not. The other one I dunno.
xp_daytripper: (interested)

[personal profile] xp_daytripper 2007-11-28 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Neither of mine were, from what Stefan tells me. And I'm the only mutant of the three blood-related siblings.

[identity profile] x-cable.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 10:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Both my parents were mutants.

My Dad's a mutant

[identity profile] x-wallflower-.livejournal.com 2007-11-28 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
With a power similar to my own even.

[identity profile] x-legion.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
One of my parents was a psi.

[identity profile] x-cable.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
Chalk up yet more evidence for psi breeding true.

[identity profile] x-legion.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 02:54 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe the same branch, anyway. Ray's seem to be about the same as yours, but mine's a little broader than the point of origin.

[identity profile] x-roulette.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
As far as I know, I am the only mutant in a vast, continent-spanning famiglia. No one on either my Mom's side or my Dad's side is one, to my knowledge.

[identity profile] x-wasp.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
I know my dad isn't. Don't know about my mom, but if she was she sure never told my dad.

[identity profile] x-skin.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 11:27 am (UTC)(link)
What Jan said, but the other way round. I don't remember my dad having any powers, and Mom's never said anything.

[identity profile] x-m.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 10:46 am (UTC)(link)
Neither of my parents are, but my grandfather on my mother's side is. Teleporter, in fact. I'm not sure if anyone else on mum's side is, but. And Cartier clearly has something weird going on with his DNA. I swear, he'll go mad if the twins manifest.

[identity profile] x-jeangrey.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 03:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Neither of my parents are, but both my niece and nephew test x-factor positive, although they've not manifested.

[identity profile] x-foliate.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 06:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Neither of our parents are/were, but almost all of my siblings are.

Not sure how that one works. Want to find out?

[identity profile] x-forge.livejournal.com 2007-11-29 06:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Does this process involve systematically throwing all your siblings off a roof and seeing who develops mutant abilities?