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Apparently early this morning - well, early morning here - something happened in Smichov in the Czech Republic, where they've built that wall around the mutant ghetto. They were letting some people pass through the barricades and there was "an incident", and somehow the military started opening fire. Newsfeeds are getting scattered reports of citizens versus soldiers in and out of the ghetto - have we heard ANYTHING from the Elpis folks that were heading out there? I've been watching what video's getting out of there, there hasn't been anything new in the past hour.

This is absolutely horrifying and why isn't the jet taking off yet?

Date: 2006-11-08 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-rictor.livejournal.com
So you will stand back and do nothing?

Date: 2006-11-08 12:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-polarisstar.livejournal.com
It's a case where our presence will likely endanger more people. We can't save everyone.

That being said, it's easier to beg pardon and that's what should have been done in this case.

Date: 2006-11-08 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-bamf.livejournal.com
What should have been done by who? I am not sure I quite understand.

Date: 2006-11-08 12:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-polarisstar.livejournal.com
We asked if we could go in.

We should have just gone. Instead we're stuck watching.

Date: 2006-11-08 12:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-ccelerate.livejournal.com
Because clearly the way to fight fire is with more gunpowder.

Date: 2006-11-08 12:47 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-rictor.livejournal.com
And all you can do is make smart ass comments.

Date: 2006-11-08 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-rictor.livejournal.com
who asked you to comment anyway?

Date: 2006-11-08 01:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-ccelerate.livejournal.com
I wasn't under the impression I needed permission. Public board, all that lovely free speech . . .

Date: 2006-11-08 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-rictor.livejournal.com
All right, since you know everything, why do you not suggest a soultion, instead of telling everyone just how stupid they are.

Date: 2006-11-08 12:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-polarisstar.livejournal.com
Of course, sitting by and doing nothing or being actively complicit is so much better.

Date: 2006-11-08 12:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-ccelerate.livejournal.com
Better than making the situation worse by blindly leaping in afire with moral outrage and the need to act without consideration for the consequences? Is that even a question?

This is why I only called you people as a last resort.

Date: 2006-11-08 12:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-polarisstar.livejournal.com
I'm going to pretend that I actually believe that you're stupid enough to think those are the only two choices.

Date: 2006-11-08 01:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-ccelerate.livejournal.com
In this particular case, given the lack of permission from the Czechs, your choices actually are "sit here and pray" or "go in anyway and be treated like the invasion force you would in fact be."

Date: 2006-11-08 01:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-polarisstar.livejournal.com
And now my belief that you are exactly that stupid is confirmed.

I do enjoy being right. Even if I don't like agreeing with her.

Date: 2006-11-08 01:11 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-ccelerate.livejournal.com
Perhaps you ought to share your amazing tactical revelation with Summers, then.

Date: 2006-11-08 01:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-polarisstar.livejournal.com
I'll share part of it with you.

Put on your Nikes and go help.

Date: 2006-11-08 12:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-rictor.livejournal.com
It's a case where our presence will likely endanger more people. We can't save everyone.

Well, obviously I know that.

Date: 2006-11-08 12:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-cyclops.livejournal.com
There's nothing that we can do, Julio. The team doesn't do anyone any good if the Blackbird gets shot down trying to land in Prague, or the Czech army comes after us because they think we're terrorists.

Date: 2006-11-08 12:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-rictor.livejournal.com
So do not use the plane or the uniforms. Find a way. You are telling me you will stand back and let people die simply because you are afraid of an "international incident"?

Would you have hesitated in July, had it taken place somewhere that was not in the United States, for fear of an "international incident"?

Date: 2006-11-08 12:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-cyclops.livejournal.com
Julio, this is happening in a neighborhood that has been completely enclosed by a wall. That wall, up until this morning, was being guarded by a substantial portion of the army of the Czech Republic, which is not some pissant Third-World military that a stealth jet and some clever manuevering could get around.

I do not see any way that any mutants, X-Men or not, uniforms or not, could have gotten in there without declaring war on the Czech Republic. How do you think that would have helped the situation, when they did this because they were afraid of mutants?

Date: 2006-11-08 12:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] x-rictor.livejournal.com
So we watch them kill innocent people for the sake of a fucking political statement. Brilliant.

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